{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"18159825","dateCreated":"1260821048","smartDate":"Dec 14, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"cpenna","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cpenna","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/18159825"},"dateDigested":1532428719,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Comments on your final revision","description":"Overall, you've been very successful w\/ this set of pages. I've put in comments below for each page. But nice work as a team.
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\nMain Page
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\nThis sentence sounds odd. How can there be simliarities and differences that are the same for all types? Is that what you're saying?
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\nAmongst these similarities and differences are aspects that hold true for all writing types.
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\nThe syntax of the following sentence is off:
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\nSome characteristics are found between styles, such as how legal writing and scientific writing is generally more formal works of writing than journalistic and business (when appealing to customers) may be less formal.
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\nThis sounds odd. Are you implying the other types of writing include fiction:
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\nit is brief and concise, and because it incorporates fact over fiction
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\nThis sounds odd. Isn't journalism supposed to report the truth?
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\njournalism does not have a rigid structure or reliability with respect to truth,
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\nThis is a comma splice error:
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\nBusiness, journalistic, legal and scientific writing styles are drastically different, however overlapping intentions can be found between styles as through their characteristics,
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\nTell the reader to click on the following links to learn more about each type of writing.
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\nNo citations on this page, but you have a W.C. at the bottom. Why?
\n<\/u>
\nBUSINESS Writing
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\nGood overall, but there are problems in clarity w\/ what comes from a source. For ex. where do the 7 characteristics come from?
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\nThere are 7 basic characteristics of business writing.
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\nAnd here: when you refer to so many pages all at once, it's not always clear whhat comes from those pages. Is this also where the 7 characteristcs came from?
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\nFavor topic-action structures (focus the meaning on the main parts of the sentence). Avoid more than two nouns in a row, break up long sentences, and position phrases and information effectively (Marsen 52-59)
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\nHere's another example of the same thing:
\n
\ncertain patterns work in certain situations. Chronological describes a process or event - how something happened. . . . .There is a problem, method to solve, result, and recommendations (Markel 19-23). Also, the writer should think about active vs. passive voice; first, second, and third person; headings and lists that make organization easier (Markel 34-39).
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\nYou've got a long description of all the different types of organizational patterns. I guess that's found in Markel 19-23. But then your next sentence is condensing 5 more pages of Markel? That seems like a lot of pages for one idea. You're also slipping into a "how-to" approach here rather than analzing strengths.
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\nJournalism
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\nThis page does a nice job of taking apart and analyzing some concrete examples of journalistic writing. Here are some things that need work:
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\nThe 3 aims sound more like 3 types of news articles. It seems odd to say that entertainment is the main goal of a news article on, say, the debate on health care reform in Congress.
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\nLook at this. Is your purpose here to teach people how to become journalists?
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\nFoot-in-the-Door Features
\nThis is the best way to break into publication.
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\nThis long list of types of articles isn't that helpful. Also some of them have citations and some do not. Why?
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\nThe characteristics section is thorough, but could be improved by breaking it up more. The long list-like appearance makes it daunting to look at. Also so many places say "see below." If you brought the illustrations up to where you're discussing them, you'd break up the page more effectiely.
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\nThe long quotation from Rieder at the end of the Strengths section could be cut. The point about the internet is irrelvant to your point.
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\nNot everything listed in WC is cited in parenthesis in the body of your page.
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\nLegal Writing
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\nGood intro to the section. By why do you single out functional writing by briefly analyzing an example of it rather than the other 2 types?
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\nThe 1st para. under Characteristics could work as an intro to the entire page and might be better if it were combined w\/ your opening section.
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\nGood job w\/ the annotated will, but instead of simply saying click here to see it, tell the reader how the will captures some of the characteristics you're describing first. Then say "click here to see more detail."
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\nScientific Writing
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\nNice page. It's a little confusing when you switch between scientific and technical writing as if they're both the same thing. Your title is Scientific writing, but I think there's a subtle difference between scientific and technical writing. Note that one of your sources is on how to write scientific AND technical papers. Maybe you should change your title.
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\nNice job of annotating your examples, and nice job of weaving in some very pertinent quotatios.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"18167937","body":"the citations on the bottom of the main page were for the images. I thought we had to reference underneath each picture and with a works cited.","dateCreated":"1260830768","smartDate":"Dec 14, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"dananew","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/dananew","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"17973399","dateCreated":"1260398878","smartDate":"Dec 9, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"dananew","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/dananew","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17973399"},"dateDigested":1532428719,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"edited","description":"hey i just edited everyone's page and made the headings bigger and centered the titles. I thought it would make it stand out better. If you don't like it and have better ideas just change the pages I guess.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"17809975","dateCreated":"1260126917","smartDate":"Dec 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"dananew","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/dananew","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17809975"},"dateDigested":1532428719,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"document meet-up","description":"This is what professor Penna said in response to my email:
\nI have office hours Monday from 2-3, but I can stay later than that. Can you (or some of you) come either at 1:30 or 2:30 (I have another appt. from 2-2:30).","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"17813091","body":"i have my registration appt at 1:30 so i definitely can't then, and I have class 2:30-3:15 =\/ any suggestions?","dateCreated":"1260134982","smartDate":"Dec 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"jrubins","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jrubins","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"17827583","body":"maybe you can schedule an appointment for a different time.
\njust ask him tomorrow","dateCreated":"1260157969","smartDate":"Dec 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"dananew","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/dananew","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"17740105","dateCreated":"1259904266","smartDate":"Dec 3, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"cpenna","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cpenna","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17740105"},"dateDigested":1532428719,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Some Comments on Your Rough Draft","description":"Here are some things that came to mind as I was reading your rough draft. They're in no particular order of importance.
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\n1.It looks like you have two intros here separated by the list of links. Why? Can you work that all into one introductory section, and if this is going to be your main page w\/ links to the other pages, can you design this page to make it look more attractive? Also, where will your conclusion be?
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\n2. Why are the 4 lined pages in the order you have them in here?
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\n3. Business Writing:<\/strong> this section could look more attractive w\/ a bulleted list. But it ought to be more than just a list of pointers. Also, why are these items in this particular order? Can you group them differently and combine some?
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\n4. The link to the cartoon needs explanation. But the link by itself doesn't make the page attractive. Can you find other ways to improve page appearance?
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\n5. Everything you cite isn't in your list of Works Cited (or isn't cited correctly--Smith and Bernhardt, for ex.). The link in your Works Cited doesn't work.
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\n6. The section on strengths slips into more of a "how-to" section giving advice on how to write for business rather than analyzing its strengths.
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\nI'll continue these comments on the other sub-pages instead of here.
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\n- \"cpenna\"<\/a> cpenna<\/a><\/span>","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"17340053","dateCreated":"1259077359","smartDate":"Nov 24, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"jrubins","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jrubins","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17340053"},"dateDigested":1532428720,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"What Professor Penna said:","description":"Emily and I sent him and email asking about what "weaknesses" was actually defined as. This is his response in case you guys want to see it.
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\nI don't think you have to see that as asking how are they bad (as in your example of biased journalism). Instead, think about it this way: since these different styles of writing have different purposes and different audiences and different rules of formatting, is it possible that each of them sacrifices things that the other modes of writing might include? Things that a type of writing leaves out is what I mean by asking what it lacks. Because a type of writing lacks something doesn't mean it's bad; it just means it doesn't value or use certain techniques.
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\nYour example of biased journalism, by the way, seems to miss the point. Being biased isn't a goal of journalism (at least not of good journalism). And being biased could slip into other types of writing too, couldn't it? Couldn't a business document be biased in favor of what a company wants to promote? But being biased isn't a goal of business writing either (except maybe advertising).","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"17315739","dateCreated":"1259022300","smartDate":"Nov 23, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"dananew","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/dananew","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17315739"},"dateDigested":1532428720,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Scientific writing outline from online article: \"Good data need good writing\"","description":"SCIENTIFIC WRITING AND STYLE: goals and rules for a good paper
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\n-Aim for 1.) precision, clarity, and cohesiveness\/ uniformity. (to make more accessible)
\n 2.) effectively communicate complex ideas to a broad audience
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\n-Tense:
\n\u2022 The presentation of new data should be in past tense. Not present tense.
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\n\u2022 Results section for reporting procedure=active voice
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\n\u2022 Experimental results reported in passive voice. Tense of all reported data must be in past.
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\n-Black listed Words:
\n\u2022 Never use \u201chelper words,\u201d or adverbs. Ex) remarkably, interestingly, etc. Adverbs function to persuade which has no place in scientific papers. Scientific papers function to convey information.
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\n\u2022 Never use: level (a term of position in space, not quantity), abundance, concentration, frequency, amount, substantial, considerable, and significant (for statistical significance only with statistical values stated). =Issue b\/c overstating importance of data could function as persuasion.
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\n\u2022 Anthropomorphism, or the attributes of human characteristics, or behavior to a god, animal, or object. Anthropomorphic language is not acceptable for describing scientific experiments.
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\n\u2022 Use of nonstandard nomenclature and \u201clab notebook\u201d descriptions are problematic. Papers should be intended for a broad community of readers.
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\n-Discussion should NOT be very repetitious for emphasis. Instead, should be a synthetic analysis of new and known data.
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\n-Display of quantitative information in figures should be uncluttered.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"17274375","dateCreated":"1258946638","smartDate":"Nov 22, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"ekrinsky","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ekrinsky","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17274375"},"dateDigested":1532428720,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"What i found- science writing, writing in general","description":"I listed the titles of the books\/articles Im going to look at when at the library tomorrow
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\nExpanded Academic ASAP
\nSearched : Science writing
\nThe Oxford Book of Modern Science Writing
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\nSearched: science composition- nothing useful
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\nSearched: science writing style
\nGood Style: Writing for Science and Technology
\nScience and Technical Writing: A Manual of Style
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\nAcademic OneFile
\nSearched: Writing style
\nThe Global English Style Guide: Writing Clear, Translatable Documentation for a Global Market.
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\nDelcat
\n The elements of international English style : a guide to writing correspondence, reports, technical documents, and internet pages for a global audience \/ Edmond H. Weiss.
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\nthe last two got me thinking- how do general writing trends fit into all of this? e.g. what properties fit all categories of writing? hopefully the last two can answer this and maybe they will help with our thesis...","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"17183281","dateCreated":"1258691536","smartDate":"Nov 19, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"ekrinsky","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ekrinsky","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17183281"},"dateDigested":1532428720,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"What I found- legal writing","description":"Expanded academic asap
\n- Legal writing
\no Style matters:\u2026
\no Quotes:
\n\uf0a7 FIND THE RIGHT TONE
\n\uf0a7 MOST LEGAL WRITING IS ABYSMAL--STIFF, abstract, stuffy. Why do we write that way in the first place?
\n\uf0a7 It's the curse of a traditional legal education. It taught us how to wrestle with the most difficult legal concepts in legalese, but not how to make them understandable to real people.
\n\uf0a7 Finding the right tone goes beyond getting rid of verbal pomposity. You want your readers to feel that what you say--and how you say it--fits the situation.
\n\uf0a7 It starts with getting the right level of formality
\n\uf0a7 USE THE ACTIVE VOICE. THE PASSIVE VOICE IS USED BY too many writers trying to sound formal
\n\uf0a7 Avoid the subjunctive mood. If you were to employ the subjunctive mood, people would sense that you were discussing something that is hypothetical in nature.
\n\uf0a7 Avoid double negatives. It is not unlikely that you know someone who uses them all the time. Getting rid of the passive voice, the subjunctive mood and double negatives in everything you write would not be unreasonable.
\n\uf0a7 Finally, don't use contractions in formal legal writing unless you're quoting what somebody said
\n\uf0a7 You want your readers to feel that what you say--and how you say it--fits the situation
\n- Legal composition
\no Magazines
\no Do you know your reader?
\no Quotes:
\n\uf0a7 Your goal is to make your readers feel like experts. Empower them. Make them comfortable enough to recommend how the case should be decided. Make it easy for them to agree that your client should win.
\n\u2022 First, remember that your briefs often present completely unfamiliar legal issues to law clerks and research attorneys. Don't presume expertise and experience that those readers simply don't have. You must teach them the law and how it applies to the facts of your case. Don't write your briefs as if they're inside jokes for those who are already "in the know." What may be old hat to you is often brand new to your reader
\no News
\no Saving words pays many dividends
\no Quotes:
\n\uf0a7 Puzzler
\n\uf0a7 How would you tighten and sharpen the following sentence?
\n\uf0a7 Plaintiff was the purchaser of defendant's entire interest in the company and had the ability to afford it.
\n\uf0a7 Inexperienced writers are susceptible to the idea that lengthier word sequences carry more persuasive weight. They have an uncertain notion of quality, so they load up on quantity.
\n\uf0a7 Phrases built around forms of the verb "to be," like "is" and "was," are heavier, but they merely drag down the prose. They don't add persuasive value. Therefore, change "was the purchaser of" to "bought."
\n\uf0a7 "Had the ability," being multi-part, is slow-developing and less punchy than "could."
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\nthis is better formatted on my computer","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"17179005","dateCreated":"1258684922","smartDate":"Nov 19, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"jrubins","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jrubins","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17179005"},"dateDigested":1532428720,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"DELCAT books","description":"1. searched "how to write journalism"
\n1st hit
\nTitle: Feature & Magazine writing: action, angle and anecdotes
\nBy David E. Sumner and Holly G. Miller
\nPN4784 F37 S86 2005
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\n2. under same search
\n5th Hit
\nTitle: How to Write Special Feature articles; a handbook for reporters...
\nBy William Grosvenor Bleyer
\nPN147 B6
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\n3. Found on shelf while looking for another book!
\nTitle: Business Writing Essentials
\nBy Markel
\nHF5719 .M36
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\n4. searched: "process for scientific writing"
\n7th hit
\nTitle: How to write and publish a scientific paper
\nBy Robert A. Day Barbara Gastel
\nT11 D33 2006
\nBeing brought over from the Marine Studies Library","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"17178381","dateCreated":"1258684100","smartDate":"Nov 19, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"ggregory1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ggregory1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/engl-110-research-projects.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/17178381"},"dateDigested":1532428720,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Found 4 books","description":"Searched on Delcat for "business writing" - search limited to "Books"
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\n1. The Constant Art of Being a Writer: The Life, Art, & Business of Fiction - 1st Edition
\n- 5th hit
\n- PN3355.K42 2009
\n- author: Kelby, N. M.
\n
\nSearched Delcat for "business writing skills"
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\n1. Professional Writing: The Complete Guide for Business, Industry, & IT - 2nd Edition
\n- 3rd hit
\n- HF5718.3.M37x 2007
\n- author: Marsen, Sky
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\n2. Writing at Work: Professional Writing for People on the Job
\n- 12th hit
\n- HF5718.3.S654 1997
\n- author: Smith, Edward L.
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\nFound on shelf next to "Writing at Work: Professional Writing for People on the Job"
\n3. Handbook for Business Writing
\n- HF5721.B38 1986","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}